View Full Version : Smoking public place ban
adisonpol
10-09-2009, 05:59 AM
Smoking will be prohibited at all places to which the public has access, including auditoriums, health nstitutions,government buildings, restaurants, courts, public conveyances, public transport, stadiums, railway stations, bus stops, workplaces, shopping malls, refreshment rooms, discotheques, pubs and airport lounges. The ban will not cover open spaces.Union Health Minister Anbumani Ramadoss has welcomed the Supreme Court order declining to stay the Centres notification prohibiting smoking. He described the ban as a major step towards providing a smoke-free atmosphere and protecting non-smokers from passive smoking.He said he had personally written to Governors, Chief Ministers, Health Ministers and Members of Parliament to ensure effective implementation of the ban.
Big Daddy's House
10-09-2009, 06:33 AM
The gov't is even considering banning smoking whileyou have your kids in the car with you, and even so far as to ban smoking in the house in front of the kids!
They need to!! It's a bad habit that the kids will certainly start doing!
anie_b
10-13-2009, 07:13 AM
Ban of smoking in public places is a very good decision and its really nice for the benefit of people at large.
Big Daddy's House
10-14-2009, 05:36 AM
If everyone in the world didn't smoke, the whole whole would be smoke-free.
Imagine that!
homer
10-25-2009, 07:52 PM
Wow! I would love that global smoke-free thing to happen! I always advise my smoker friends and family to quit smoking because it ain't doing them any good at all..including us who do not smoke. I just hope this law will really be implemented globally.
TheKitchenSink
10-27-2009, 05:17 PM
I just hope this law will really be implemented globally.
That would make for a lot of angry chefs...on this and many other forums. It might also make for some kind of bizarre Orwellian nightmare, but that's a whole different story.
SpiceItUp
10-28-2009, 02:26 PM
yeahh I would definitely love if this would happen...I can't stand breathing in smoke
Big Daddy's House
10-28-2009, 07:13 PM
I have friends who live down the street, and honestly, they smoke like chimnneys! When I leave theor apt and get home, my clothes are reeking with cigarette smoke!! They are good friends, but they just smoke too much!
Klingon
11-04-2009, 12:52 PM
Smoking in public place is banned in India too.
I really say thanks to Indian govt.
this is very good step.
Smith
11-26-2009, 12:37 PM
It is a great decision. Tobacco use is expected to claim one billion lives this century unless serious anti-smoking efforts are made on a global level.Secondhand smoke contains more than 50 cancer-causing chemical compounds, 11 of which are known to be Group 1 carcinogens.
Leena John
12-02-2009, 02:31 AM
here there is ban for smoking in public places. but the law is not implements and those who want to smoke in public they are doing it without any hesitations.
Banning smoking in public places is a good thing, but I think it would be difficult for the government to implement such things as banning smoking in your own home, in front of your kids. I also think many smokers will have a hard time, because it's an addiction and they might need medical help to get rid of it.
Kimchee
01-05-2010, 12:02 AM
NC just banned smoking in restaurants and bars...
with the exception of Not For Profit places (like the VFW)..
and COUNTRY CLUBS!
My, they made sure to exempt two heavy smoking centers of voters, huh?
pffffffft. All or nothing folks, all or nothing!!!
homecook
01-05-2010, 12:14 AM
They've banned cigarette smoking in our bars and restaurants for 3-4 years now. You guys are behind the times. LOL
They tried to fight that in the courts here Kimchee. They were too dumb to make that exception when they wrote the law in Ohio. haha
Personally I think it's all a bunch of bs. Every time you turn around they're taking away "someone's" rights!! I'm just sayin.......
Kimchee
01-05-2010, 09:40 AM
I ain't disagreeing!
IF a business wants to cater to smokers, by all means, let them.
Let non-smokers speak with their wallets.
Big Daddy's House
01-05-2010, 09:55 AM
You're right about THAT one!
If they want to cater to smokers, then so be it. But they WILL LOSE the non-smokers' business. And I for one, wouldn't sit in a restaurant, bar or club that caters to smokers.
It's a dirty nasty filthy habit that makes us non-smokers very uncomfortable!
In Massachusetts and Rhode Island, smoking is banned from eateries, bars and clubs, as well as the airports and municiple buildings.
Kimchee
01-05-2010, 11:38 AM
Actually, it doesn't make ALL non-smokers uncomfortable...
But I have no doubt that before too long, the only place one will be able
to smoke is within your own home, in a special room designated as such,
with separate air filtration.
Then, it will be Big Macs, sugar filled drinks and dangerous sports that will
be legislated.......
Dough Boy
01-05-2010, 11:51 AM
Wow! I would love that global smoke-free thing to happen! I always advise my smoker friends and family to quit smoking because it ain't doing them any good at all..including us who do not smoke. I just hope this law will really be implemented globally.
I agree that smoking is not good for you, but your global remark scares me. Stop and think about what you are saying, and even more importantly, how global laws would be enforced. It's not just about tobacco use once you start speaking of global enforcement. What sort of people would be responsible for creating and enforcing global laws? I'll bet they are not all people looking out for your best interest.
Whoopie Pie
01-07-2010, 07:48 PM
Actually, it doesn't make ALL non-smokers uncomfortable...
But I have no doubt that before too long, the only place one will be able
to smoke is within your own home, in a special room designated as such,
with separate air filtration.
Then, it will be Big Macs, sugar filled drinks and dangerous sports that will
be legislated.......
Someone consuming big macs, and sugar filled drinks has no effect on my health, people who choose to participate in dangerous sports have no effect on my health.
People who smoke in my presence have a direct effect on my health, and I have a problem with that. Add to that, they make my clothes stink. I have had to stand by helplessly while a co-worker had a severe asthma attack from a smoker, smoking where they shouldn't have been, I had to stand there rubbing her back and try to comfort her while waiting for the paramedics arrive, it was a scary thing.
Do I think that smoking should be outlawed? NO, people can smoke in their cars and at home and kill themselves if they please. I do feel bad for children who have to be trapped in smoke.
jimbo
01-08-2010, 06:58 PM
Banning smoking in restaurants and bars presumes 2 things with which I have a problem.
1. Restaurants are public places. They are not. Typically these businesses are privately owned and operated, pay license fees, and exist in buildings privately owned which pay property taxes. I fail to see how they can be assumed to be public venues. No one is required to enter a restaurant they dislike for any reason. The decision to allow smoking, the items on the menu, and the prices is best left to the proprietor
2. The presumption seems to be made that I need the help of the government to recognize a smoke filled room when I see one. I do not need this help. I simply avoid smoking restaurants. Also other restaurants where the menu, atmosphere, or value does not appeal to me.
There is an argument for banning smoking in places where I am forced to do business. i.e. public buildings. However, the smoking ban is just too much big brother for me, and is a nose under the tent flap. If PETA has there way, there will be no meat served anywhere. If you can ban smoking in the interest of reducing national health costs, can other "unsafe" acts be far behind? Trans fats are banned in some places. The health care proponents including Obama have already stated that one way to save health care costs is to alter the way we live. Several localities are working to ban certain types of restaurants. Some already have. One arrest has already occurred where a OTR driver was issued a citation for smoking in his truck. The argument was that this was his place of business. All in the interest of saving ourselves from ourselves. Be careful what you wish for.
Whoopie Pie
01-09-2010, 12:04 AM
Banning smoking in restaurants and bars presumes 2 things with which I have a problem.
1. Restaurants are public places. They are not. Typically these businesses are privately owned and operated, pay license fees, and exist in buildings privately owned which pay property taxes. I fail to see how they can be assumed to be public venues. No one is required to enter a restaurant they dislike for any reason. The decision to allow smoking, the items on the menu, and the prices is best left to the proprietor
2. The presumption seems to be made that I need the help of the government to recognize a smoke filled room when I see one. I do not need this help. I simply avoid smoking restaurants. Also other restaurants where the menu, atmosphere, or value does not appeal to me.
There is an argument for banning smoking in places where I am forced to do business. i.e. public buildings. However, the smoking ban is just too much big brother for me, and is a nose under the tent flap. If PETA has there way, there will be no meat served anywhere. If you can ban smoking in the interest of reducing national health costs, can other "unsafe" acts be far behind? Trans fats are banned in some places. The health care proponents including Obama have already stated that one way to save health care costs is to alter the way we live. Several localities are working to ban certain types of restaurants. Some already have. One arrest has already occurred where a OTR driver was issued a citation for smoking in his truck. The argument was that this was his place of business. All in the interest of saving ourselves from ourselves. Be careful what you wish for.
You are incorrect, restaurants ARE public places, they are places where the public gathers, just because they are not publicly owned does not mean that they are not public places, this should be obvious to most people.
What the heck does PETA have to do with any of this? PETA is not a government agency and doesn't have any power to enforce laws. PETA is a radical fringe group which has strayed from its intended purpose and has become a nuisance.
What does Obama have to do with anything? Is this just another feeble attempt to drag the Obama administration into an argument and start blaming them for all the world's problems? This seems very typical of conservatives that I have conversations with.
It takes a high level of ignorance to go around saying things like "public smoking bans infringe on my rights" and somehow remain unable to understand that their smoking in public infringes on non-smokers rights. Try pointing that out to a smoker who feels that way (some do, some don't) and you're likely to get "if you don't like it you don't have to go to that bar/restaurant, you can stay home" which again just shows how ignorant they are not to realize the obvious response which is "if you don't like smoking bans you can stay home and smoke". So which one wins? Well, let's see. A smoker is not harmed by a non-smoker NOT SMOKING. A non-smoker is harmed by a smoker smoking. That's what makes the winning argument obvious to me.
mortimer33
01-12-2010, 08:51 AM
In Ireland smoking has been banned for many years. People have gotten used to it and you never hear smokers complaining about being forced outside. I would argue that bar smokers actually enjoy going outside to smoke as it gives them the opportunity to chat to other people..
Big Daddy's House
01-12-2010, 12:11 PM
Someone consuming big macs, and sugar filled drinks has no effect on my health, people who choose to participate in dangerous sports have no effect on my health.
People who smoke in my presence have a direct effect on my health, and I have a problem with that. Add to that, they make my clothes stink. I have had to stand by helplessly while a co-worker had a severe asthma attack from a smoker, smoking where they shouldn't have been, I had to stand there rubbing her back and try to comfort her while waiting for the paramedics arrive, it was a scary thing.
Do I think that smoking should be outlawed? NO, people can smoke in their cars and at home and kill themselves if they please. I do feel bad for children who have to be trapped in smoke.
Yeah, I, also, feal so badly and sad for the poor innocent children who are so unfairly forced to deal with the dangers and health hazzards of second-hand smoke!
It's an unfair dirty nasty habit that they just might start doing themselves if they are around it, even BEFORE they reach their teenage years!!
Tuscan chef
02-03-2010, 10:06 AM
Here in Italy smoking in cars, even just the driver, is going to be prohibited as talking whith cell phones.
As a former smoker, I can see both sides of this argument. People should have a right to smoke...AND people should have a right to not have to breathe smoke. I believe that one person's rights end where another persons begins...so, if you want to smoke in your home, go for it...it's your home...if you want to smoke in a public place...everyone has a right to that area and if you choose to smoke, you are infringing on another persons right to breathe clean air, so you don't have the right to smoke there. As for restaurants and bars, they are privately owned so if they choose to cater to smokers, they should be able to even if I choose not to give them any of my business.
I can understand the government passing laws governing smoking in public places but everywhere else is simply non of their business. I believe in limited government.
jimbo
02-03-2010, 03:21 PM
Thank you, Mama. I was going to write a rebuttal to an earlier post, but I could not say it better.
Just for the record, I don't smoke, except for an occasional cigar, and I do not eat in restaurants that allow smoking. I just don't want the government making decisions for me that I can better make for myself.
Muller
02-23-2010, 02:16 AM
Nowadays all the things available in the market are not good for health. Let it be packed foods, aerated drinks, burger etc. All are not healthy. In case of smoking, it not just affects the smoker but the non smoker too.
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